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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 20:58 
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:gatso2: Another item from the Daily Wail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

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Crowds of shoppers clapped and whooped as the female warden placed a £60 fine on the flashy vehicle, which had been parked illegally in Manchester city centre over the weekend.


A bit sad really.

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I expect it probably won't bankrupt him!


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If only...

Motorists the World over clapped and whooped as the five gigajoule capacitative discharge defence system in the Bugatti reduced the jealous Meter Maid and the paupers for twenty metres around to smouldering ash...





Which was nice...

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So what are you saying? That because he was a millionaire in a millionare's car, he should be allowed to park wherever he wants?

The "crowd" whooping and clapping is admittedly despicable, but he doesn't deserve to be let off (or murder the traffic warden as the previous poster seems to advocate) simply because he is wealthy.

As I've mentioned on another thread, my father in law drove fire engines (the simon snorkel ladder) and if cars were parked illegally and blocked his way to an emergency he would "nudge" them out of the way. The Veyron driver is lucky, I suppose, that he gets a fine of 0.000075% of the value of the car, rather than a fire-engine shaped dent in the car.

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I find myself generally agreeing with you Handy.

Yes, he should be treated just like anyone else and get a ticket.

Yes, it's unfortunate that the envy of the crowd got the better of them.

I don't know if this particular bit of parking was actually obstructing anything but, if so, then the driver was an idiot just like the driver of, say, a Micra would be.

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malcolmw wrote:
I find myself generally agreeing with you Handy.

Yes, he should be treated just like anyone else and get a ticket.

Yes, it's unfortunate that the envy of the crowd got the better of them.

I don't know if this particular bit of parking was actually obstructing anything but, if so, then the driver was an idiot just like the driver of, say, a Micra would be.


But WAS it envy?

Maybe the crowd were local residents who were sick of him parking to the inconvenience of residents?

I wonder if there is a history of him blocking people in, parking on pavements, etc?

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Schadenfreude :)

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Yes he should get a ticket ( if legally issued :lol: )
However to cheer?
Smacks of jealousy


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The awaiting crowd were expecting to see a celebrity return to his car

So I don't think it was local residents



If it was a micra would it be in the news paper?

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Big Tone wrote:
Schadenfreude :)


Yea, thats all it was.
Its not that hard to work out why they reacted like that. A lot of people believe that posh folks with big expensive cars seldom get any come-uppance for bad behaviour on the roads and here was one - the ultimate persona of the uber-BMW driver - getting a slap right in front of their eyes.

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VRM is illegal...should be reflective


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D'ya know? I remember when it was possible to have a bit of a laugh on this site without getting dissected.

Well bollocks. I'm off to PH for a bit of fun.

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MGBGT wrote:
D'ya know? I remember when it was possible to have a bit of a laugh on this site without getting dissected.

Well bollocks. I'm off to PH for a bit of fun.


Well, to be honest MGBGT, you only got the same kind of distorted slant analysis of your post that others receive on theirs.
I mean, heaven forbid if someone comes along and sugeests we all stick to the speed limit :o
"Ohhh, so we're only safe if we drive exactly at the limit", will come the tediously inevitable replies :roll:

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Thatsnews wrote:
But WAS it envy?


The fine could be upgraded so that it hurts him as much as a $60 fine would hurt a pensioner. Perhaps a £6,000 fine would have a similar deterrent effect.

That way, we'd have no envy for the poor(er) man, but we'd all pay a little less tax? There's no downside, as far as I can see.


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There's no downside, as far as I can see.

Except for the destruction of the concept of all men being equal under the law.

I am totally against punishments being related to the wealth of the offender rather than the seriousness of the offence. I am even concerned with the principle of time limitation of offences being undermined because a prisoner happened to win the lottery.

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malcolmw wrote:
Except for the destruction of the concept of all men being equal under the law. I am totally against punishments being related to the wealth of the offender rather than the seriousness of the offence.


They'd hammer me (as usual).

But in order to make all men equal under the law, the punishment would have to be related to the dosh the perp has, wouldn't it? Without that, there is a disproportionately unequal deterrent levied against poor offenders, and we don't want to be regressive. You seem to be "hoist by your own petard", eh malc? How do you get around that , then?


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Valle Crucis wrote:
How do you get around that , then?


Simple!

You do a similar thing with prison sentences. When a very rich person gets convicted of, say, murder, he gets a prison sentence of one minute. Some scumbag burglar who sponges and steals from society and contributes nothing to the world gets a million years.

Job done ;)

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Valle Crucis wrote:
malcolmw wrote:
Except for the destruction of the concept of all men being equal under the law. I am totally against punishments being related to the wealth of the offender rather than the seriousness of the offence.


They'd hammer me (as usual).

But in order to make all men equal under the law, the punishment would have to be related to the dosh the perp has, wouldn't it? Without that, there is a disproportionately unequal deterrent levied against poor offenders, and we don't want to be regressive. You seem to be "hoist by your own petard", eh malc? How do you get around that , then?


As I said elsewhere, thats one of the reasons why corperal punishment appeals to me.

20 lashes hurts just the same no matter how rich or poor you are!

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Dusty wrote:

As I said elsewhere, thats one of the reasons why corperal punishment appeals to me.

20 lashes hurts just the same no matter how rich or poor you are!

:D


one flaw in your plan- how would we punish tory mp's found guilty of crimes?

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Dusty wrote:
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the punishment would have to be related to the dosh the perp has, wouldn't it? Without that, there is a disproportionately unequal deterrent levied against poor offenders,


As I said elsewhere, thats one of the reasons why corperal punishment appeals to me. 20 lashes hurts just the same no matter how rich or poor you are!


Dusty, your right again, chum... I'd love to be the one who delivers the lashes to that mug in the Bugatti. I'd give him 40 - 20 for bad parking, and 20 for his vanity. It'd wipe the smile off his face. There's quite a lot to be said for some aspects of "sharia law", as they call it out east.


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