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oooh! Takes a brave editor to post this one up in a cycling rag!

Chap writes that he started cycling in the 50s. and




Ah.. the good old days.. when we stood to attention for the teacher, the policeman, and just generally respected each other without sinking to petty abuse over trivialities.




So.. cyclists tailgate each other as well.. I htink I would have behaved as in the car.. made contact again and ease off to let him pass. Perhaps though.. one of them muppets who just did not like a older geezer overtaking him...



Yes. Some are atrociously rude. Attitudes when pulled for no lights ...pavement riding, RLJ ( oddly enough - we do have a littel word when we see this.. and - cough - discretion is always used ) are certainly more aggressive overall than the drivers we pull - according to our lads and lasses out there



Are there any rules of etiquette left with regard to anything? Petty vulgarity, rudeness, aggression.. pompous self importance and righteousness .. seem to be the norm - especailly amongst those with zero personalities who want power and unfortunately - the only way they can weild it is by being rude and vicious. Such types are usually cowards.

Rules of etiquette.. good manners. Sooner we get back to the values of saying "hello, please and thank you" - perhaps we may just return to the gentle manners, negotiating and sharing the roads out there more safely - and exchanging opinions without abuse creeping in to otherwise healthy debate
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just someone being lazy and getting a tow.



I'd say cyclists are the ones who acknowledge each other and stop at lights. The rest are just people who happen to be riding bikes.


yes there are, unfortunately the "bmx" bandits don't seem to have learnt them.

Are people who ride mountain bikes in town the cycling equivalent of the urban cowboys in their 4x4s?

Can be irritating.



Ah.. a bit like the courteous driver The rest are complete muppets! "Everyone out there's an idiot.. except me of course " Only my Dad told me that I was also one of the idiots as well perhaps to another idiot.





Yep.. I'd say so. Mountain bikes in towns

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Living where I do, I'd think....
"Lives on the mountain, and just come into town for a paper!
Or maybe he knows about the state of the roads in our town?

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I think cyclists are worse behaved than motorists. As a cyclist I find myself giving fellow cyclists a piece of my mind when they don't use cycle lanes and clog up roads, when they jump red lights and take up excessive road space. I think a large majority of cyclists are arrogant bastards who think they are god's gift and don't give a stuff aboutother road users. I am ashamed to be a cyclist as it puts me in the same class as these idiots.

Cyclists do not have to use cycle lanes. Just as buses do not have to use bus lanes.

Many cycle lanes are inappropriate for use.

What do you mean by excessive road space? Do you mean they are not riding in the gutter?

Cyclists should allow faster vehicles to overtake if conditions allow. If conditions do not allow they should not.

Cyclists may not have to use cycle lanes, but it isn't courteous to ignore them, and at times can be dangerous, such as cycling along a three-lane 50mph expressway when there is an excellent parallel cycleway.

I stand by my comments. I am a keen cyclist myself, but that doesn't stop me from hating the other w*****s .

athough just like driving.... there are several things higher up my priority list than courtesy..... and among them is safety.

I don't know where there is a three lane urban expressway (I assume it's not a motorway or trunk road), but three lanes sounds like it is easy for cars to overtake.

A14 spring to mind.. in theory you can ride a bike on it. It even has triangles (no where near the speed cams .. ) warning us that pedestrians may be crossing the road at some point.

I would not ride a bicycle on this road... It does not have a cycle lane ...

Another one .. the A580. That has huge chunks with a shared cycle lane/footpath. I hear the path ist well maintained .. not one walks though. The cyclists ride on the A580... und run the red lights ... und half those lights have red light cams... (as "judged danagerously wide crossings on fast road" - per thte response when questioned as to proliferation in one stretch of it. (Ist where Mad Doc's sisters und brother live... one of the girls lives a 5 minute walk from the "Lancs.")

But some of them do come across as arrogant and self-righteous.. und talk a load of poo!

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Some cyclists are selfish, for instance riding two abreast on a narrow road and not dropping into single file when a car driver is following.

How do you safely pass riders on a club run on a twisty road? With patience, restraint and difficulty.

Or last Sunday, following four cyclists on racing bikes on a badly iced-up country road. After driving at 5 mph in first gear for about 5 mins while they slipped and slid around in the middle of the road, three eventually pulled off into a driveway. As a cyclist, I would have stopped and walked in this situation. As a driver I couldn't risk them falling off and sliding under the front of the car.

This is such a source of contention. What's worse? Dropping into single file, if there's ten of you, can make it harder for a car to overtake than if there's five car-sized groups of two with room between them. I always go for the single file but I've been told off for doing it!



Yep!



Were they in SPDs? They might have been unable to get off and walk if the road was icy. SPDs would be more treacherous than wheels in those circumstances!!

I don't normally read the cycling forum, but I DO resent the comment that mountain bikes in towns are as bad as 4x4s johnsher!

I used to cycle everywhere as a student. I also enjoyed offroading in my free time. I couldn't afford 2 bikes, so I used the MTB for commuting. Didn't stop me from obaying red lights, using cycleways where appropriate and generally behaving though!

Lizard, don't get me started on walking in SPDs!

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is it me? or are drivers displaying less cheer & goodwill than usual in this festive season

i'm usually pretty chilled out about it all but i'm finding myself increasingly annoyed with the number of people trying to take me out lately

only 3 weeks to get a bite Even so, I think you're reading a little too much into what I said.

Don't worry about it, I'm slow!

I probably was reading too much into it...it was a LONG day yesterday!

(Besides that, at least my MTB actually saw mud once in a while! )

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oi

i commute on my old slicked up MTB.... no way i'd put my road bike through the battering & wear & tear.